Episode 214 MVP: The concept that will help you go through military, life, and career transition

April 10, 2024

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In today’s episode, I share  a  concept ideal for navigating military, career, or personal life transitions. 

Drawing from personal experiences, including an ongoing career transition and preparing for motherhood again, the significance of embracing changes with an open heart and a positive mindset. I introduce Dan Sullivan’s ‘The Four C’s’ concept as a framework to help you successfully navigate your transitions. 

Through personal anecdotes and professional advice, I encourage  you  to commit fully to your goals, face challenges with courage, develop new capabilities, and build confidence. 


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Wendi behind the mic wearing a black shirt

[00:00:55] Wendi: Hello ladies. And welcome to episode 117. [00:01:00] All of that. You’re ready for today’s topic. Because today we are talking all about. The concept that is going to help you. To go through your military, your life, or even your career transition, as you all know, or probably may not know, especially if you’re new to the podcast. And if you onto the podcast, I want to welcome you and just say, thank you for possibly stumbling upon this podcast. Or even just hearing about this podcast through a friend, somebody, maybe they shared it with you.

[00:01:28] Wendi: Thank you for tuning in. And if you’ve been with me for a minute, I just want to say thank you again for joining me once more for another exciting episode. And I’m just really excited to share this concept with you all, because this concept has not only helped me, um, through my actual life, um, transition, but also.

[00:01:49] Wendi: Through career transition that I, um, having gone have been going through, um, now in like the past three years, two to three years, [00:02:00] And by that, I mean, like just going all in on different career paths and being okay with the experience and being okay with whatever the outcome may be. And again, Uh, as I’ve shared this.

[00:02:13] Wendi: On the podcast before I’m also going through a life or what I want to call a mom. Life transition. Um, I am expecting, and I will be due sometime in October. And it’s coming up really quickly. Um, and so it’s, it’s been. Um, definitely changing, um, When it comes to like, you know, my body and really preparing mentally and emotionally.

[00:02:44] Wendi: For this new adventure. Adventure. And the reason being is because not only are my kids now a lot older, my daughter is 10 and my son. He’s eight years old. Um, but also because I’m like in a whole [00:03:00] different. Area of my life or stage of my life. And by that, I mean, you know, in every single aspect, you know, uh, in my faith, um, you know, relationship with my husband as a wife,

[00:03:13] Wendi: Um, in my career. Um, within my coaching. Within really everything, um, that I even, you know, could ever imagine to include my finances. So. Again, it’s. Definitely going to be a lot different, you know, taking on this. Um, you know, amazing. Um, journey of, you know, getting to not only go through the pregnancy, but also go through the postpartum experience, go through the, you know, newborn, infant toddler stages all over again.

[00:03:48] Wendi: But it’s definitely going to impact me in every single area of my life. And. I wanted to share this and, and really, you know, hope that this is going to help you as [00:04:00] well. Once you understand this concept that we’ll be talking about. Because I promise you, you’re going to look back. Even if you just use this for your military transition or whatever season you’re in.

[00:04:11] Wendi: You’re going to look back one day and you’re going to be like, okay, I think I could go back to that concept. And apply it to this change, to this transition. That you’re going through at that moment. And again, this could be, you know, your, um, Your relationship transition. I mean, we all go through different relationship transitions as well. We can just be with a close friend. It could be with a family member. It could be with your, you know, your spouse, maybe you’re now, um, going through a divorce or maybe you’re thinking about getting married, or maybe you’re thinking about.

[00:04:42] Wendi: Just starting to get into the dating. Um, The dating adventure. So whatever it might look like for you, whatever the transition is, whatever the change may be for you. This can be helpful to you in any situation. And so [00:05:00] again, the reason I am. Um, you know, digging deeper. Into this. As I am going through this.

[00:05:07] Wendi: Um, You know, mom, life change, but also even career and everything else that comes along with it. Um, You know, this is why I wanted to. Really highlight this concept again, and really be able to share it with you in hopes that you take a moment to consider it or apply it to your life where you are now. Like what season you’re in.

[00:05:30] Wendi: And I promise you, it’s going to help you. It’s going to really change. Kind of like a perspective of whatever that transition is, even if it’s a wanted or in unwanted transition, because I mean, let’s face it. Some of us leave the military willingly. Some of us are. We are told to leave the military. Um, some of us, you know, there will be a career change because of how, um, everything is changing, right. Or, you know,

[00:05:59] Wendi: What that [00:06:00] next phase may be in your career. Maybe now you’re looking at retirement. Maybe not. You’re looking at changing your entire career completely. Or it could just be a life transition, right. Going from possibly, you know, being married to going through a divorce or vice versa, going. From being single to going into a very serious relationship.

[00:06:19] Wendi: So again, I think that this is going to benefit anyone out there that is common. Transition thinking about a transition in their lives because that’s a whole nother conversation. Um, but it will also help you. Based on where you’re at. If you’re still kind of like thinking about it or considering this transition.

[00:06:36] Wendi: This concept will also help you because it’s part of the first step or the initial, um, Initial key part of the concept of in itself. And what, um, The concept is all about is actually taught by Dan Sullivan. Um, he teaches this concept called the four CS, and [00:07:00] I’m going to talk about the four CS today.

[00:07:02] Wendi: And how that is going to help you. Really be the foundation to get through through this. Um, goal that you have, which would be the transition, which would be, you know, your life transition, which would be your career. Um, whatever that may look like for you. And so, again, Um, being able to understand.

[00:07:20] Wendi: These four CS and implement them. In the season that you’re in is going to be beneficial. And so. Um, the first C and again, these are the four CS. I’m just going to go ahead and tell you the four CS now, and then I’m going to go one by one and kind of explain to you what I mean. Or what then that means.

[00:07:39] Wendi: When it comes to explaining, and understanding and becoming aware of what these four CS will look like. In your, your life. And so the four CS are commitment, courage, capability, and confidence. And so according to Dan. He pretty much has that once an [00:08:00] individual. Um, can accomplish. Um, their goal are willing to move through these four CS.

[00:08:09] Wendi: That pretty much was it they’re going to accomplish that goal, right. So let’s say for you, it’s the trend, the military transition. You’re like, that’s my goal for 2023. I’m going to transition out of the military. You are going to be able to accomplish that, of course, in any way possible. If that’s your whole.

[00:08:27] Wendi: But if you really want to be able to follow through with that in a way where. It allows you to grow and evolve. Then these four CS or something. That is going to help you do that in a way. Where you’re going to not only accomplish that goal. We are going to evolve and you’re going to grow. In a way where you probably didn’t even think it could be possible.

[00:08:51] Wendi: And so when we have this goal in mind, right, it could be a transition. It could be, I mean, your military transition, it could be. [00:09:00] A life transition, career transition. Such as this huge, trusted major change. Then the first thing you must do is commit to your goal. And that is where commitment begins. Um, it being the first.

[00:09:18] Wendi: Kind of like QI. Um, key part of the, uh, of this concept with the four CS. And so what do you mean by commitment? And I think, um, really what commitment really means to me is. Going all in, even when there are obstacles going all in, even when it seems. Like. The obstacles or the challenges that are going to be very, very difficult.

[00:09:43] Wendi: And not making any excuses. So for me at first, we were considering, you know, expecting, we were like thinking about having another child and we’re like, just, and more specifically me, I’ll be honest. How was tiptoeing around the idea of what that would [00:10:00] look like? And. All the challenges that came with it.

[00:10:04] Wendi: All the negative emotions that were tied to it. Um, and I was just really focused on, you know, everything that would kind of like prevent me from enjoying the experience. And by that, I mean, of course, pregnancy and starting all over. And not to mention. You know, it does bring on. A whole different aspect of.

[00:10:28] Wendi: Um, responsibility and commitment. And so for me, I wasn’t committed at first. I was not. Alana. I was not excited about it. I was not, um, really considering it even being a possibility because of where my husband and I were in our lives. And so not only in our lives, but in our relationship alone.

[00:10:49] Wendi: And so any who. I wasn’t committed. And so it took me a while. Um, I want to say almost a year to really fully commit to this idea [00:11:00] of. Even considering, um, you know, to go. And, um, explored the possibility. Of having another child. And so when I did, I was like, you know what? I have to really, you know, go back to the heat, to this concept that I’ve not only done with my, you know, coaching career with my.

[00:11:23] Wendi: Um, coaching business of just going all in with, you know, Investing in the certification. Putting myself out there as a coach and doing all the things that come along with that. So I then. You know, figured. Okay. So in order for this to actually, you know, be successful, I have to go all in. And I don’t mean like, oh, because I was going to go all in. It was a guaranteed.

[00:11:45] Wendi: That we were going to be pregnant right away. Like that’s not what I meant. I meant like I was going to go all in and just allowing. Um, not only got it to do what he needed to do. But also in order for us to be in a place [00:12:00] where it was going to happen. In a way where it was healthy for everyone, right. With Nora Morris, with Nora Gretz with, you know, not dealing with this negative emotion.

[00:12:12] Wendi: I head of time. And so, because I mean, you will get negative emotion who you’re expecting. I don’t care who you are. I don’t care how many kids you’ve had before, how often you’ve had them or, you know, The period of the season that you were in. There will be negative emotion just because of how your body.

[00:12:30] Wendi: Not only changes, but also the conversations and everything. The plan and everything that you have to sacrifice with within the first, even first couple of weeks. And so. That’s what I mean about you beginning to commit to whatever that change is going to be. So for you, if it’s transitioning out of the military, you know, have you committed to.

[00:12:51] Wendi: Actually doing it in a certain amount of time. Right. So have you committed to transitioning by 2023 by 20 24, 20 [00:13:00] 22? Whatever that may look like for you? Have you made that commitment? Of actually making that actual change in your life. And if the answer is no, then that’s where you need to begin.

[00:13:12] Wendi: If you’re still thinking about it, if you’re still tiptoeing around it. Whatever that transition may be. I want to offer you to take this moment and go to the first seat and commit to it. And committing, does it mean. Um, you know, you just want to do it committing means going on Lynne. No matter what.

[00:13:31] Wendi: Like you are literally going to follow through no matter what you’re going to give it. Your all. And so the second scene. His courage. And now courage, is it kind of like tricky word, especially for us military folks? Cause we were like, yeah, of course we have courage. Of course we’re courageous people. Of course.

[00:13:53] Wendi: I’ve been put through. You know, situations where I have. You know, had to provide. A lot [00:14:00] of courage and shown bravery and you know, this is what I’m all about. But this is also what I mean about courage. Because once you commit. So like once you’re like, yes, I’m all in. There’s going to be this little part of, of you.

[00:14:16] Wendi: Of us as humans. That? Yes. We’re like all committed. We’re willing to take whatever actions needed and necessary. Um, To get that done, but what also comes up. Our negative emotions that are going to come. Quickly and almost even immediate, once you make that decision. And the reason for that is because there’s that fear of failing or that fear of it not turning out the way we want it to be. Right. Kind of like when we, um, you know, set goals, especially if they’re like impossible goals or goals that are like super, super hard.

[00:14:54] Wendi: That we know it’s going to be challenging to attain. That there’s a fear. Of [00:15:00] like us not meeting that goal. And so it’s the same thing, right? If you’re like, okay. Once I commit to like submitting my packet or putting in my retirement packet, For this military transition, there’s going to be. Some fear, some doubt.

[00:15:14] Wendi: And it’s going to be, um, you know, this experience of having negative emotions. And so the need for courage is going to be almost immediate. It’s going to be kind of like you. Won’t be able to move to the next thing until you. Actually get to, um, encounter courage. You get to really be in this. Okay. I’m going to do it.

[00:15:43] Wendi: It’s going to be scary. But I’m willing. To be uncomfortable. And have the courage. Two. Get this done. And a lot of the times. Uh, in for, for most of the [00:16:00] Molson, um, Most of the time, what I hear. When it comes to courage people like, oh yeah, it’s something that’s like, Um, It’s supposed to be something that you like aspire.

[00:16:13] Wendi: To to have, right? Like if you, if you feel courage, you should feel good about it. And I think it’s the opposite. I think that when we’re being Kerr, um, courage for, or when we are in the filling of courage, It could be uncomfortable, at least for me, it’s uncomfortable. And honestly, it just feels terrible because.

[00:16:35] Wendi: We know that there is going to be some part. That we have no control of no certainty at all. And yet we are still willing to do it. Like, for example, if you’re a paratrooper, right. When we get on. When we get on, um, When we are getting ready or when we’re on that manifest, right. We’re like, okay.

[00:16:58] Wendi: We’re going to go ahead and do this [00:17:00] chump. Take care of it, and we’ll be good to go, but there’s this little part of us, at least for me when I was. When I was, you know, on that child and I was getting ready, you know, we got like the 30 seconds at the 32nd mark. I could feel my body warm up. Like literally I would feel my whole body.

[00:17:19] Wendi: Just warm up. It’s as if. When we were like 10 minutes away, I was still good. I’m like, yup. I’m determined. I’m going to make this job. I’m going to do this job. Everything’s going to be well, the one little prayer. And the 30 seconds came and I just want my body get one more of my heart race. And my adrenaline just started.

[00:17:39] Wendi: It just, it just picked up from there. And again, it was uncomfortable. Like I wasn’t completely in positive emotion the whole time. Like, yes, I can’t wait to get, you know, get this done. I was like, yes, I can’t wait to get this done. But on the other side of that, I was a little uncomfortable. I was like, okay, what do I need to do? If my parachute doesn’t open.

[00:17:58] Wendi: Here’s my reserve. What are the [00:18:00] steps and zone? Like again, it was something that did not feel amazing to me. It was the part of courage where again, I know it’s uncomfortable in everyone close to this, that demonstrates. The feeling of courage. That demonstrates this courage for act. And whoever says that courage is always great. I mean, they’re lying to us.

[00:18:24] Wendi: So again, Being able to. Actually be in the feeling of courage and know that. Whatever. You know, the outcome may be, is worth it. Um, that is real courage to me and really be willing to. Be uncomfortable, be in discomfort. Because it’s not going to be. The most comfortable thing when you’re like jumping.

[00:18:51] Wendi: So many feet from the ground and even thinking of the possibility that your parish is not going to open. Right. And the same goes for this [00:19:00] transition. You’re like, okay. Am I really going to find the job that I want, the career that I want. Am I going to adjust to this new environment, to the civilian environment? And it could be the same thing. If you’re getting married, am I going, is this something that I’m going in willing?

[00:19:14] Wendi: To do based on where I think I’m going to go with this relationship. And same thing. Me as a mom now I’m like, It’s, it takes a lot of courage to do this again. I’m not going to lie. And some of your, like, whatever, get over it, you’re going to be a mom. You’re you’ve been doing it. It’s going to be fine.

[00:19:31] Wendi: But, you know, to be completely transparent to here. There’s this there’s always room. I think of, at least for me. Of me doing it. Um, correctly, right? Like, um, I think I’ve shared this before and I shared it on. Um, women or the military podcast, you know what? I went through this miscarriage at 20 weeks.

[00:19:55] Wendi: And so, you know, there’s, that’s always in the back of my mind, right? Like what if I don’t [00:20:00] take the necessary measures to ensure that my baby is healthy? Or if, is there something that could, you know, happen within the next, you know, remainder of 14 weeks or 13 weeks that I have left? You know, so it’s, it’s a part of like going on Lynn.

[00:20:19] Wendi: And still taking that risk. And so that’s what I mean about courage. And it’s also going to feel terrible, right? Like who is ever excited about going into labor? I know I’m not like I’m already. I think I had like one bad dream already of like me going into labor. And it was not exciting at all. And so again, that’s what I mean about the feeling of courage. Um, and again, it could be in any stage of your life, your career.

[00:20:46] Wendi: And so then when. We look at how comfortable you’re going to be. And when we look at how it’s going to be this way, you know, the discomfort. Is signed really that you’re on the right track. It just saying that [00:21:00] you’re a growing, it’s a sign that you’re expanding. And once you’re able to display this courage, you can develop the skill.

[00:21:08] Wendi: That will then increase your capability, which is the next C. Capability. And again, Whatever that trans transition will be. Right. You being, you having the capability. Of, um, doing what you were doing in the military and the civilian sector. Or you having the capability of providing for your family, providing for yourself?

[00:21:33] Wendi: Or even you just having the capability of being a mother again. Having the capability of, um, being a husband or a wife. Now in this new relationship. Or having the capability of being a single mom. Having the capability of going through this. Degree finishing this degree. Whatever that Gomi may be, or that transition may look like for you.

[00:21:59] Wendi: [00:22:00] And, you know, again, It’s something that. You can’t really. Um, continue to develop unless you are. Actually doing it, right. Like, I can’t say well, I’m going to, um, be a great. Um, mom, twin infant, if I only have elementary or grade schoolers right now. You know, so like that’s what I mean, or even, oh, I’m going to do so great in the civilian sector and the business sector, corporate sector.

[00:22:32] Wendi: If you’re still in the military. So. Being able to, you know, develop that skill. Can only be done by you. One committing to that goal. And having the courage to follow through on everything that’s required of it. That’s how you build a skill. That will increase your capability for that wants specific transition. Either military transition into the civilian sector.

[00:22:57] Wendi: Your life transition, you know, you as [00:23:00] maybe now getting married or going through a divorce, being a single mother, or maybe just, even in your career, you now wanting to have your own business. You. Wanting to go into corporate, you wanting to start investing in real estate, whatever that may look like for you.

[00:23:13] Wendi: Or simply just as a mom. As a wife. And so when you become capable, Of or, you know, you’ve improved their skill and become capable of actually doing that one thing. Then you’ve been com confident, which is the force, the fourth seat. Confident in that new skill and that new thing that you’re doing the new transition. Right? So you being able to.

[00:23:43] Wendi: Actually one do it. And, you know, become where that the only way that you can increase that capability. Is by committing and, you know, having the courage to get things done, the actions that needed to be taken. [00:24:00] And increase your capability. You will become more confident. Once you continue. That cycle.

[00:24:07] Wendi: Of commitment, courage, capability, and confidence. And the other thing I want to add to here when it comes to confidence and. One of the verses that. Really helped me to, you know, when it comes to any change or anything that I am unsure of, anything that. I know I have no control over and only God has.

[00:24:28] Wendi: I go to Joshua chapter one, verse nine. And this is in the NIV version. Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid, do not be discouraged for the Lord. Your God will be with you wherever you go. And that alone. Helps me helps my mind. Not only, um, to continue to believe God’s word.

[00:24:56] Wendi: Because remember what we think is how we’re going to create that, [00:25:00] that feeling right of confidence. And so. For me, I don’t, I don’t think, I believe that confidence. It’s something that is. Only within myself. But it comes from first from the word of God, from me knowing what he has in store for me, even though I don’t know what he has in store for me, but he knows what he has in store for me.

[00:25:23] Wendi: And when I can read this first. And he’s pretty much telling us be strong and courageous.

[00:25:33] Wendi: Do not be afraid, do not be discouraged for the Lord. Your God will be with you wherever you go. That creates so much confidence from me. Not only in me necessarily, but confidence in the entire churning confidence that God is like wanting me to make this move. God is giving me this opportunity. To commit.

[00:25:56] Wendi: Two. Be courageous. To [00:26:00] develop and improve this new capability. And to have full confidence in him. So that I can then have confidence in myself to keep moving forward, to keep, to keep making progress. And so. I wanted to share that verse with y’all because it’s, again, something that we sometimes think that we.

[00:26:18] Wendi: Um, can only have so much confidence in ourselves, but. It’s not really just about us, right? It’s about really starting from the root. And their root is how God has created us in the plan that he already has for us, even before we even think. We need to consider it. Right. Every single thing that we go through.

[00:26:37] Wendi: Katie’s very intentional with even the ones that were like, why is this happening to me? Even those because he’s showing us, he’s teaching us something. He’s allowing us to grow in a different way. And that’s really what this concept is all about, what these forces are all about, right? The discomfort.

[00:26:56] Wendi: Is ultimately going to be the price of the growth that you’re [00:27:00] looking for. Because that’s most of the time, why we’re going through different seasons, why we transition from. Um, you know, military to civilian from life or career transitions, because we want to grow. We want to get up out of our comfort zone.

[00:27:17] Wendi: And so I want to offer you this week to continue to. Not even just consider this transition or a season that you’re in. But really go all in and go through this concept. Uh, regardless of what season, what transition you’re trying to go through. And really understand every single see commitment, courage, capability, and confidence. How are you going to use those for.

[00:27:46] Wendi: C’s to help you. Not only follow through with your goal, but also to help you grow. In a way where you possibly didn’t didn’t even think you could grow. Regardless of what it is, even if it’s going through divorce. [00:28:00] There’s so many things that we can learn from. The experiences that we never planned.

[00:28:06] Wendi: Even if you’re, you’ve been told that you’re no longer. Able to be in the military. Whatever that career was. And now you have to change paths. You’re still going to grow. And this concept I promise you is definitely going to help you go through that transition. All right, ladies. I hope that this episode has blessed you and encourages you.

[00:28:28] Wendi: To go to this concept and really continuing to follow through on that transition. That you’re possibly waiting for. All right, have a beautiful rest of your week. Bye.