[00:00:00] Wendi: Hey sis. Welcome to Beyond the Military Podcast, where faith led military women overcome burnout and create more balance. Just imagine having enough time to focus on your faith family, and have more fun while still serving as a woman leader. In this podcast, you’ll walk away with the tools to help you navigate the busy life of a military woman, organize your mind, overcome overwhelm, create a prioritization, playbook, and a balanced blueprint for integrating faith, family, and career.

[00:00:28] Wendi: Yeses in that order. Hi, I’m Wendy Ray, woman of God wife, mama of two army veteran and certified life coach, and I’m here to help you create a life of meaning outside of the military, a life of laughter, joy, and intentional free time. If you are ready to overcome burnout and create balance as a faith led military woman, sis, this podcast is for you.

[00:00:50] Wendi: So loosen up your laces and grab your coffee because it’s time to step into freedom and peace.

[00:00:55] Wendi: Hello ladies, and welcome to another episode [00:01:00] of Beyond the Military Podcast. I am so happy to be here with you today and I hope that you are too. I hope that you’re ready for today’s topic, especially if you are a, um, woman in business or maybe you are wanting to go into the business sector today. Have a very special guest.

[00:01:17] Wendi: His name is Jordan, and I’m going to allow him to introduce himself here shortly. But I also. I want to remind you if you have not yet joined the Facebook group, I wanna invite you to join us today. Go ahead and pause this episode. Go on over to Facebook and just search up beyond the military. Or you can also go in the show notes here in the show notes on the podcast, and you can click join the.

[00:01:41] Wendi: Actual Facebook group for Beyond the Military podcast. And, um, along with other military women sharing how you’re struggling with possible, um, emotional wellbeing or maybe even just wanting to take the next step for your goal, um, and also get to a few tips [00:02:00] and learn how you can use your time wisely create more time to be more intentional with your family, with your loved ones, and with your goals. All right., I would love to introduce to you, Jordan, today. Welcome to the show. I am so happy that you’re here. If you are catching this on YouTube, you’ll see that today we have the video on, which, by the way, if you’re driving.

[00:02:22] Wendi: You can also catch this video at a later time. It’s in the show notes. You’ll be able to watch it through YouTube. So without further ado, Jordan, welcome to the episode and please introduce yourself.

[00:02:43] Jordan: Wendi, thank you so much for having me. I’m delighted to be here. It’s, um, I’m glad we got to connect on LinkedIn and, uh, to talk about, about podcasting as I am the, I’m the host of the Warriors in Business Podcast and it’s our goal and our mission for our podcast to. To bring [00:03:00] value and resources and talk business strategies and so much more with fellow veteran business owners, first responder business owners, and even some military spouse business owners. We just actually spoke to one recently, so it’s, um, conversations that we have with them to talk about their journey from

[00:03:16] Jordan: military to civilian life, how they became an entrepreneur, and how they’ve run their business businesses today. So it’s, it’s awesome to, uh, to

[00:03:25] Jordan: be able to join you to talk more about these things.

[00:03:30] Track 1: I appreciate you reaching out, which, by the way, you guys, I actually got, I believe it was a LinkedIn message and he was telling me what he did and you know, what a great resource he would be to come on the podcast. And at first I was actually telling Jordan right before we started recording, I was a little skeptical because I was thinking, you know, I typically bring women on this

[00:03:51] Track 1: Podcast. And as you guys have been hearing, I brought up another, uh, gentleman. He’s actually still in the military, a marine officer talking about his [00:04:00] book. And it really just resonated with me on how they are supporting military women, how they’re supporting women and veterans, how they’re supporting just the military community in general, and how it will not only be beneficial for you as a woman leader, as a woman veteran, and even possibly as

[00:04:18] Track 1: As a mother of someone that wants to join the military. And so even now, um, like Jordan mentioned, he, the, the, the business, the podcast that he’s offering is for not only veterans, but also first responders, which I’m sure there’s, um, women out there that are constantly, um, in that field and even military women that get out and are also first responders, um, but also now spouses.

[00:04:47] Track 1: So with that, To me it was a no-brainer to bring them on and continue to support and encourage women that are looking to get into the business world, that looking into getting into entrepreneurship, but don’t know [00:05:00] how to start or don’t know where to begin, dunno how to market yourself. And Jordan and his dad started this idea with not only the podcast, but also now in the works bravery.

[00:05:11] Track 1: And so, I am just so grateful that you’re here today, Jordan, supporting us, women supporting veterans, supporting the military community, the first responder community into encouraging them to get into business and building this resource for them that’s completely free. Which by the way, um, before we go any further, I also want to emphasize that another thing that stood out to me that Jordan was so honest and transparent about, he said, Which, by the way, I’m also not a veteran or in the military and nor is my father.

[00:05:46] Track 1: So, you know, with that, I just, you know, thought that it was, you know, different because he is supporting . The community that he wasn’t a part of. And so that says a lot about you, Jordan, and your dad. So we wanna thank you for your [00:06:00] support. We wanna thank you for what you’re doing out of, you know, the, your time, because that’s really valuable, right?

[00:06:05] Track 1: That’s what I talk about here on this podcast, our time being so valuable. And you’re doing just that alongside with. Your dad. So we’re, we’re just grateful. And Jordan, tell us a little bit more about this podcast. What, what is it that you’re sharing on there? I know you mentioned you had a recent, um, interview with a, um, spouse.

[00:06:24] Track 1: Can you tell us a little bit more on what these ladies can find there and also tune into.

[00:06:32] Jordan: Of course. Yes. And Wendi, thank you for all of that. I am grateful along with, um, my dad, whom he’s the co-host on the Warriors in Business Podcast with me, and it’s just been our passion to want to serve and to give back to those who have given so much to us first. And it’s. You know, it was a privilege and an honor that I did not have, personally, I was not in the military or a first responder myself. I’ve had family members who [00:07:00] have served in the armed forces and as first responders as well. And it’s their stories and seeing how they, not only from their time in the service, but transitioning to civilian life, seeing them, um, you know, work their way through that and to get back on their feet again. Uh, between that and just this greater vision that we have for Um, creating an online marketplace for, uh, for military veteran first responder owned businesses. That has led me to do doing all these things and specifically this podcast, um, that, that we’ve been running for, for a few months now, which is, has been taking off like a rollercoaster ride and it’s been a ton of fun as we have been bringing on. You know, people from, uh, from various backgrounds, you know, whether they’re, they’re veteran business owners, first responder business owners. Um, I mentioned earlier we talked to a military spouse who was a business owner, and that was a really cool conversation just to hear her side of the story with it. And as, as her husband, [00:08:00] uh, served in the armed forces and she had to figure out how to make ends meet and to make adjustments in her life and had to network and connect. With, uh, you know, with others, especially like on online blog sites and things like that. And so that was really fascinating to, to hear her side of the story and then to talk about how she became an entrepreneur and now actually has multiple businesses. And so

[00:08:24] Jordan: the purpose of us doing this podcast Warriors in Business is to, you know, to bring value and resources to the military and veteran community. And, you know, ’cause we, we, on there we talk about, you know, business strategies. You know, successes, challenges that these business owners have faced. You know, we go, we do deep dives into certain topics like marketing and sales and networking

[00:08:48] Track 1: Mm-hmm.

[00:08:49] Jordan: you know, how do you access capital and how do you scale your business?

[00:08:52] Jordan: And so much more like that. So it’s not just about a high level overview of. You know, their journey, uh, you know, from [00:09:00] military to civilian life to entrepreneur, but also get into deep dives as well. And so

[00:09:04] Jordan: that’s been a lot of fun to talk about those things so that the listeners can learn from that.

[00:09:10] Track 1: Yeah. No, I, I love it. And I think one or a couple topics that came to mind when you were listing out, you know, . What really they’re struggling with, right. Or what isn’t as easy to attain. And I think more specifically for our community, um, our female veterans or our women in the military, I think for the most part is really networking and also the, um, how do we get funding, right?

[00:09:37] Track 1: I think those are like the top ones that come to mind. And with that, Jordan, and, and you can tell us, you know, what, you know, common themes you’ve seen or what . Is more of a struggle than, than the other. But I’ve noticed too that when we don’t know exactly right, like how to network or you know who to reach out [00:10:00] to, is it going to be free?

[00:10:01] Track 1: Are they going to charge me? Um, where do I get funding? All of these questions that come up. We then lose confidence in the next step because we’re thinking, oh, we don’t have those T’s crossed. Those i’s dotted, and there may not be that opportunity for me. Right? Or, you know, everyone else that’s supporting this veteran community.

[00:10:23] Track 1: It’s only focused primarily on the, the majority, right? A lot of men are out there. Um, looking for funding and actually getting the funding. Um, unlike women, you know, it takes us a little longer. We have to justify more based on, you know, our idea or, or what our business goal may be. Our business plan. And so what, what do you, you know, what would you like to add to that?

[00:10:49] Track 1: You know, have you seen anything different? Um, or what was your case with, um, I know the recent interview that you had,

[00:10:58] Jordan: Yeah, so it’s, [00:11:00] it’s been interesting. One of the most common things that we have, Come across in our discussions, not only interviews that we’ve done on our podcast, but through word of mouth conversations, through email exchanges that we’ve had is this common theme of, okay, I was, I was in the service and I knew exactly what was going to happen on any given day, so to speak, because there was, there was schedules, there was expectations, there was orders, there was structure in every way possible. If there was a question about how to do something, there was some specific instruction on how to do it. And then

[00:11:35] Jordan: once they transitioned out of the military, then it’s like, it’s like the wild, wild west, and they’re like, uh, what do I do now? I’m not sure there’s, you know, I, I, I had this blueprint beforehand, but now I don’t have it, so what do I do?

[00:11:49] Track 1: Right.

[00:11:49] Jordan: And

[00:11:49] Jordan: that’s been a lot of the struggle that we have, you know, talked about with. These, these veterans, and it’s been interesting to hear their journeys of, [00:12:00] you know, getting their feet established again and you know, establishing their own routines again. And you know, a lot of that has come from, honestly, from genuine networking. And I would say that’s a common theme that runs through all of it. And. It is a means of connecting with people through a variety of means. If it’s, you know, someone that you know personally and can talk to about how they became an entrepreneur and learning from them and some of the steps that they took.

[00:12:28] Jordan: Or maybe it’s learning from some of the mistakes they made and doing better instead. Um, I know another valuable resource that has helped a lot of veterans is utilizing LinkedIn as well to connect with their fellow veterans on LinkedIn. And you know, there’s a lot of groups that are like veteran specific on there, and there’s forums and there’s posts and articles and all, all kinds of things like that. But also people know that on LinkedIn you’re there for business. And so for those that wanna be an entrepreneur and wanna start something that’s a, that’s a great start for anyway. And it’s [00:13:00] a free resource. You know, of course you can do the LinkedIn sales navigator for, you know, advanced, you know, business networking and things like that. But at a minimum, there’s I can’t remember exactly how many use LinkedIn. I dunno if it’s 600 million plus,

[00:13:12] Track 1: Yeah, it’s a lot of people

[00:13:14] Jordan: quote me on that. It’s a lot of people and, and, and everyone’s, so many people are willing to help and because they know it’s,

[00:13:20] Jordan: it’s more intentional there than by other means. And so, so that, that’s also been, know, one of the tools, in fact, we talked to, we interviewed a gentleman on our podcast who was like the LinkedIn expert, and he gave us a full deep dive on

[00:13:35] Jordan: here’s how you create your profile.

[00:13:36] Jordan: Here’s how you You know, interact with other people, here’s the information you need to put on there. And so there’s, you know, so that was a really valuable conversation ’cause it was like a deep dive into that specific application for it. Um, but just the general

[00:13:50] Jordan: idea of. Networking and the relationships that you build

[00:13:54] Track 1: Yeah. No, I 100% on,

[00:13:57] Jordan: is the best starting point, or one of the best starting [00:14:00] points is like, who do you know or whom can you get to know through a handshake, through an email, through a, a direct message on, you know, social media or otherwise, just to get it started.

[00:14:09] Jordan: Not to have it all figured out in the beginning, but to get it started.

[00:14:14] Track 1: yeah. Yeah, no, everything you just said 100%. Um, and then going back to the common themes, you know, like you mentioned, I think networking is definitely where you want to begin, and LinkedIn is a beautiful platform to do it. Um, and by the way, I’ll add that episode here in the show notes. Um, so if you wanna go to that episode, make sure that you check the show notes.

[00:14:40] Track 1: It’ll say, um, . The title, and then I’ll put in parentheses LinkedIn profile overview. Um, but we want to be able to do that sooner than later. Right? Because I mean, like we always say time is money. The, the more that we can practice this and become. [00:15:00] Comfortable and safe in doing it because it can be a little awkward sometimes.

[00:15:04] Track 1: Like I, you know, at first when I was transitioning, I’m like, I don’t wanna network. That sounds very intimidating to me. I don’t know what to say. And, oh, by the me by the way, I don’t, I don’t know how to actually interact with. Other, um, or with civilian people, because I’m so used to being with people around me that are wearing a uniform.

[00:15:25] Track 1: We know our language, we know what we’re saying. Like you mentioned, we have a blueprint. We know everything that we need to not only do, but how, how to say it. And so it becomes a different language when it comes, when it, when we’re talking about networking, especially when it comes to asking the right questions about Becoming a business owner, how do I get to this stage? Or what’s the next phase when it comes to, let’s just say, again, going back to funding, right? And I think that that’s, you know, a great starting point that you mentioned, Jordan, because within the [00:16:00] networking you may not know things or there are things that you probably could never know, um, or maybe you would know, but it’ll take you more time versus connecting with the right person, right?

[00:16:10] Track 1: Like me connecting with you will now save someone time. And, you know, doing a, a LinkedIn profile, they don’t have to wait until they’re getting out because a lot of people also, um, correlate LinkedIn to just looking for a job. But now LinkedIn is more than just looking for a job and, um, positions or, you know, anything to do, to do with employment.

[00:16:34] Track 1: It’s also a B two B. It’s also just putting your business out there, like you mentioned, networking, finding networking events. All of that’s on there. And so, Again, what we’re doing now, we’re skipping all that time and going right to LinkedIn and saying, okay, I need to build a profile in a way that everyone knows that I have something to provide.

[00:16:58] Track 1: I have something that I’ve [00:17:00] created or that, you know, uh, I’ve put together and it’s a service or a service that I provide and it’s available. And so by you doing that, You know, again, you’re, you’re saving time, you’re networking in a way that you possibly didn’t even know you could do, or actually execute, but you’re also learning a different skill.

[00:17:21] Track 1: And I think that that’s gonna come in handy in the future, especially when you’re out, out there physically, like you said, a handshake, um, attending these events, talking about your business. And so I love that you mentioned that, Jordan. And, um, another key thing that you mentioned, um, earlier with . Not really knowing where to begin.

[00:17:41] Track 1: I think that finding communities, right, it doesn’t have to be one. I know before I’ve, I’ve, um, interviewed, um, another organization, um, that is actually supporting female veterans to go into business. But you don’t just have to be a part of one. I actually encourage you [00:18:00] and Jordan, you tell me, you know, your opinion on this, but, or your take to

[00:18:06] Track 1: Try to connect with as many organizations, communities as possible so that you are not only practicing this new identity, but also becoming more confident in your next move and your next opportunity, because that’s, that’s, I think, the most important thing as you’re building this, this new identity, because that’s really what it is.

[00:18:29] Track 1: You’re going from your rank. To now, you’re a business owner, you’re an entrepreneur, and now you’re selling yourself and whatever product or service that you are selling.

[00:18:50] Jordan: Yeah, so there are so many different tools and resources available to us, including organizations and [00:19:00] communities, online communities, and otherwise that we can get. Involved with, and that’s both a positive and sometimes could be a negative because it’s like, oh, there’s so much out there. But then the other side of that coin is there’s so much out there, where do I start?

[00:19:14] Jordan: I have no idea. I’ve been there before. I’m like, well, where do I begin? I, it’s, it’s cool to have so much, but where’s, where’s the starting line? Where’s that, you know, first checkpoint that I could get at and then, you know, proceed from there. And so I think it’s, it’s helpful to Try to condense it just a little bit and not get overwhelmed by how much there is out there because you’ll discover it as you, as you go along, as you network and, and connect.

[00:19:41] Jordan: Don’t try to get a million connections right away. Go for quality and not necessarily for quantity. I. Because the quantity will add up over time, just by nature of

[00:19:51] Jordan: how social media is built and the tools that we, the amount of tools we have available and things like that, and the number of people utilizing that. But start [00:20:00] small. That way you can actually focus in on those connections that you make and the things that you want to create and provide and things like that. And then build it up from there. You know it, it’s a means, it’s like stepping stone starting down here and just one step at a time. You’ll figure it out as you go along with that. Um, But with that said too, I have found it very valuable, and especially from the conversations we’ve had with veteran business owners, is to never turn down an opportunity to network. If somebody reaches out and is genuinely interested in wanting to learn more about you, or perhaps there’s something that you can learn from them, take advantage of it, do it. Go for it.

[00:20:36] Jordan: Because you never know until you know you actually go forth with it. And so that has also. Seem to return a lot of rewards for a lot of these veteran business owners that I’ve talked to because they have said yes more often than, than no, at least in the beginning phases, while they were trying to figure things out of, okay, how do I launch my business?

[00:20:57] Jordan: How do I create an L L C? How do I get [00:21:00] funding? How do I, you know, Find a brick and mortar location for my business that I wanna do. And then along the way you’ll kind of figure out what you need to go towards more often in terms of those things, and then what maybe you don’t need to do so much of later on.

[00:21:16] Jordan: So it’s kind of like, first you want your mind to be a sponge and soak it all in, and then later on you’ll kind of refine that method of, you know, okay, what connections do I make here? Or what do I spend more of my time towards? So, ’cause it is a learning curve in the beginning, at least that’s what we have come across with talking to these fellow veterans and, um, and most recently military spouse that we talked to. Um, and hopefully a lot more, I mentioned just the one, but, you know, we, we wanna bring on as many people as possible.

[00:21:43] Wendi: Yeah.

[00:21:44] Jordan: And so that’s kind of been the overarching theme in some of those, uh, some of those conversations has been, you know, say yes more often than no, and, you know, yes, go for quality as opposed to, to, uh, quantity. And I. You know, have faith that it will figure [00:22:00] itself out if you put in the regular time and consistent effort to seeing those things happen for you to launch your business to, you know, to get more customers, to find funding, to do everything that you put your heart towards.

[00:22:17] Wendi: I love what you just said, Jordan. Thank you for elaborating on that and really providing your like expert opinion here because you hit right on when you said quality or quantity. Yes. Quality over quantity. And then the other thing that I love that you mentioned was to say yes more often than no, especially when you’re beginning or when you’re thinking about this idea or this service or this product, right?

[00:22:44] Wendi: Because again, if you don’t do that, you there, there are gonna be things that you don’t know and then possibly even, um, . A shy away from doors that may be already somewhat open. And so I just [00:23:00] love

[00:23:00] Wendi: that you brought up also the analogy of the sponge right at the very beginning. You wanna be able to soak it up, um, and really allow yourself to just be all in and, and be willing to.

[00:23:14] Wendi: To not be perfect or for it not to be perfect. I know that’s another thing that we struggle with. We want everything to

[00:23:21] Wendi: line up the way that we’ve planned it to be. Um, and also in execution time. We want to, we want it to just happen as we, we planned it, right? Like as we expect it even. But unfortunately,

[00:23:35] Wendi: you know, this whole entrepreneurship and

[00:23:38] Wendi: You know, a business doesn’t, it doesn’t happen that way. There’s no actual blueprint. There’s more so of, you know, different experiences in different ways. Of course, there are, you know, some ways that are, that we know that are gonna work better than others, but for the most part, everyone’s journey is different.

[00:23:56] Wendi: And so, you know, you bringing that up with, you know, connecting, [00:24:00] networking, allowing it to just be more quality over quantity and be genuine, right? Be genuine with the connections and . , you know, that, that brings up a good point with, you know, sometimes, um, Maybe even thinking that you’re not the right person that they can connect with.

[00:24:18] Wendi: Um, like for example, you and I, right? Like at first I was like, I don’t know if I should respond right away or I should look ’em up. You know, all these things that we do

[00:24:26] Wendi: because, I don’t know about you, Jordan, but I get tons of messages every single day on LinkedIn that are not podcast related, that are just different things that they’re trying to sell me on there, which can become overwhelming.

[00:24:38] Wendi: And so when I do get this genuine, you know, invitation or genuine message, I. I really have to take the time to do my work first, like my, my research and understand what the ask is here and really be open to that genuine connection. And I think that the more genuine you are, you know, the, the better it’ll be [00:25:00] received.

[00:25:00] Wendi: Because honestly, Jordan, your message was, I mean, it, it felt really genuine. Like I felt like you were talking to me and you really have something to offer. And so I looked up your website. Looked up your podcast. I listened to the beginning of your first episode, and I’m like, oh, they are serious about supporting veterans.

[00:25:20] Wendi: I’ll check ’em out and see if we align when it comes to military women. And I asked you that question and you’re like, no. Yeah. This is something that we’re really wanting to do. Build this platform where they can market their product, their care, market their service, be able to connect with other, you know, local businesses.

[00:25:38] Wendi: And be able to, you know, go from there. And that really just reminded me of one of the clients that I had where she was just, I mean, confidence wasn’t there, not because of her experience and skills and her can-do attitude, but it was more of. Just being intimidated on pro, you know, promoting and marketing [00:26:00] her, um, product.

[00:26:01] Wendi: And so again, it’s one of those things that we just don’t know where to begin. And like you mentioned earlier too, another great point that you mentioned. Not overwhelming yourself, you know, not having too much out there, which can be a good thing, but at the same, it could also, you know, be a bad thing. And I talked about this too in one of the episodes about choosing the power to choose, right?

[00:26:23] Wendi: And so when you are, you know, not only, um, intentional with. You know, looking up organizations that are maybe within your niche or maybe in your area, right? So this, these are things that you want to do ahead of time. So when you do get those opportunities, you’re like, Hey, you know, this is, you know, something that I could really be interested in.

[00:26:45] Wendi: Right? So, Right now, if you’re a a woman veteran and maybe are even in, you know, first responder community, this is definitely something for you, right? Because you check all the boxes, or maybe you just check one of the boxes, but you’re also maybe [00:27:00] interested in supporting first responders, maybe what you sell.

[00:27:03] Wendi: What you have to offer is for first responders, for veterans specifically, and now you have this opportunity to not only . Listen to orders and business podcasts, but then be on the wait list to learn more on how you can be a part of this bravery marketplace. Because what you ultimately wanna do is to be able to be out there and, um, Touch as many, you know, people as possible with your, your, product, your service.

[00:27:33] Wendi: And this is exactly what Jordan is doing. This is exactly what Bravery is doing. This is exactly what, um, Jordan and his dad are doing on this podcast. And so, again, if you’ve been on the fence or you’re like, I just dunno where to begin, I just wanna find a community. I need to check it out. I wanna invite you to one, you know, Join this, um, marketplace that, um, that Jordan has put together called [00:28:00] Bravery.

[00:28:01] Wendi: All you have to do is go to join bravery.com and you’ll be on a wait list and you’ll be able to list your actual product service on there. Oh, by the way, you also have a podcast that you can subscribe to called Warriors in Business, where you can tune in and listen to more stories. Other, um, businesses or other, um, veterans that are in business going into business finding tips.

[00:28:27] Wendi: Um, like we, like Jordan mentioned, the LinkedIn opportunity. I mean, it’s, it’s really a, a hidden gem right now. Not a lot of people are using it. Um, as they need to, but also there are so many people on that platform. And so if you go on there now and you’re thinking about getting out, you’re like, I don’t know when I’m getting out, but I still need to, you know, start thinking about my business, my future business.

[00:28:53] Wendi: I, you know, encourage you to go on LinkedIn now, um, and, and do that as well. Jordan, is there, [00:29:00] is there anything else that I missed out here?

[00:29:05] Jordan: No, you touched on a lot of great points and you know, just, just for Just for the sake of clarity as well, we are in the pre-launch phase for the Bravery online marketplace, and so as, as Wendi mentioned, you can go to join bravery.com. That’s join B R A V A R i.com to sign up for your free business listing. And so we are still putting the pieces together and hope to have more information here. In the next few months, maybe, um, maybe to next year too for, you know, next steps on, on that development there. But of course, in the meantime, for more immediate action, for, you know, finding, you know, business insights and hearing more of you know about sales and marketing and networking, and you know how to scale your business. How to access capital, things like that. You can go to warriors in business.com to check out our, uh, check our check out our site. There we are on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, [00:30:00] Google Podcast, and also YouTube as well. And so far we’ve been doing audio interviews, but I’ve been enjoying this, this video interview, so we’re soon gonna be putting that, um, as, as part of our offering as well too. Um, So, and that’s a free resource for you, which is awesome. Free resources are amazing. As many as you can put your hands on and, you know, get your earbuds put in for, to, to check out. Podcasts are one of those avenues of which you can utilize, um, you know, creating a free LinkedIn profile and starting to just message people on there. By, you know, just sending direct messages of like, hi, I’m looking to connect. I wanna know more about your business. I see you’re a veteran. Things like that. Start off simple. You don’t have to come forth with some grandiose speech or, you know, long thing written. Um, not only that, but sometimes the best three words to say when trying to initiate conversation is, I don’t know. I don’t know about this. I want to learn more. Can you tell me more? Because it’s that genuine, just honesty of like, I, I don’t know the [00:31:00] answers to all things, but, uh, I would like to learn and perhaps you could show me something that I don’t know already, and then later on you’ll be able to help somebody else better with that too.

[00:31:08] Jordan: So, um, that’s my additional 2 cents with that. Um, you know, besides everything you mentioned before,

[00:31:21] Wendi: Yeah, great point, Jordan. I, I love everything you just said right now too. . Everything you’re saying is so good regarding, you know, kind of a, a way that you can connect, you know, not overthinking it and genuine and just being honest, right? Because. We really don’t know on what’s the best way to, you know, interact in a way where you’re not like creepy and, and weird and you know, just coming off as someone that’s just being needy and just focus on themselves.

[00:31:50] Wendi: So I do appreciate that and, and thank you again for coming on and sharing. A little nuggets here and there about LinkedIn, about, you know, where to begin [00:32:00] and focusing on quality over quantity. I, I really hope that, you know, we get at least one person, one of you, that are thinking about business or don’t order to begin, go over right now to join.

[00:32:12] Wendi: bravery.com. Again, it’s join, and then it’s B R A V A R i.com. Sign up, join the community so that you can not only get the upcoming news marketplace launch, but also be able to list your business on there for for free, and be a part of this initiative. I am so grateful that we had this opportunity to have you, Jordan.

[00:32:34] Wendi: Again, everything will be in the show notes. So if you’re driving, please just wait till you’re, um, at your next destination and be able to do that there. Um, and if you would love to learn more or you’re like, Hey, I don’t have the confidence, or I just would love help on my next step, feel free to go over to Wendi ray.com/consult and I’ll be happy to provide you with a 45 minute session where I will walk you step by step on [00:33:00] possibly where you’re stuck.

[00:33:01] Wendi: What you’re overthinking, any, you know, limiting beliefs that you’re having, and we can go over that and be able to walk you through that plan so that you have something in hand for you to take on for your next step. All right. Thank you so much, Jordan, for joining us, and we hope that we not only get to meet with you again in the future and see how all of this turned out, but thanks again for having us and you all have a great rest of your week.

[00:33:25] Wendi: Talk to you soon.

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